June 16, 2008

We have a comment - Islamic wisdom and tact

Back in February of 2007, I posted this: Pssst -- wanna see something secret??? It was a set of photos of some palestinian 'authorities' being given the grand tour and being allowed a photo-op with the Black Stone inside the Kaaba - the building engineered and built by the USA Corporation Bechtel Engineering who partnered with the brand new Saudi corporation Bin Laden Construction on the actual construction. I compared their reverence for a black rock that fell out of the sky with the 1970's icon of a glory hole. Well, it took long enough but I finally got a comment from an articulate individual named 'None'. Hey 'None' -- Homer had that idea for a name a long long time before you were ever a spark in your mothers loins -- how long ago? Try 800 BC... Anyway, None's comment:
Never mentioned ever that this came from the moon.

Watch your words and fuck you.
Ever the model of tact. Actually None, there is not a direct line from the moon to this rock -- it is a glassy meteorite. I misspoke and I apologize. The reason for that link though is that the pre-Islamic cultures in the middle east were avid moon worshipers and polytheists and when the mighty mo came to power and installed himself as the ruler of that sorry band of nomads, he did what the Christians did and co-opted the local festivals, holidays and practices. Here is a brief collection of talking points from here:
Introduction to basic facts of history:

#1) - Moon worship has been practiced in Arabia since 2000 BC. The crescent moon is the most common symbol of this pagan moon worship as far back as 2000 BC.

#2) - In Mecca, there was a god named Hubal who was Lord of the Kabah.

#3) - This Hubal was a moon god.

#4) - One Muslim apologist confessed that the idol of moon god Hubal was placed upon the roof of the Kaba about 400 years before Muhammad. This may in fact be the origin of why the crescent moon is on top of every minaret at the Kaba today and the central symbol of Islam atop of every mosque throughout the world.

#5) - The moon god was also referred to as "al-ilah". This is not a proper name of a single specific god, but a generic reference meaning "the god". Each local pagan Arab tribe would refer to their own local tribal pagan god as "al-ilah".

#6) - "al-ilah" was later shortened to Allah before Muhammad began promoting his new religion in 610 AD.

#7) - There is evidence that Hubal was referred to as "Allah".

#8) - When Muhammad came along, he dropped all references to the name "Hubal" but retained the generic "Allah".

#9) - Muhammad retained almost all the pagan rituals of the Arabs at the Kaba and redefined them in monotheistic terms.

#10) - Regardless of the specifics of the facts, it is clear that Islam is derived from paganism that once worshiped a moon-god.

#11) - Although Islam is today a monotheist religion, its roots are in paganism.
As for the stone itself, there is a good article at WikiPedia: Black Stone:
According to Islamic tradition, the Stone fell from Heaven during the time of Adam and Eve
From descriptions of the surface, it's a glassy meteorite or a piece of dirt that had been vitrified from the heat of a meteorite impact -- a tektite. Of course I had to look up the IP address of this moke. It began with 86. which is right in the heart of the RIPE registry. Yup - Jordan So in closing None, you should really watch your scholarship and your potty mouth. If you were really concerned about your spiritual path, you would abandon the false prophet you now worship. Islam gives a great feeling of strength to people who willfully keep themselves in the dark, but, Islam is not a path of light -- it is the beginning of the descent into the great darkness of the soulless and there is only the light and the forgiveness of Jesus as your redemption. I pity you in your weakness. Posted by DaveH at June 16, 2008 10:17 PM